The resurrection of Nacho...

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BeijaFlor » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:41 pm wrote

Nacho has been a subject of discussion ... and derision ... on MGTOW HQ. And since we <cloaked> our forum, he hasn't even been able to lurk on it. From his remarks on GYOW, I'd say this galls him no end.... :mrgreen:

MGTOW HQ was put together by Nacho's former mod team. They set it up as a group effort, and all contributions go straight to the host server. They also set it up so its existence didn't depend on one "kingpin" who has the power to turn it off ... as Nacho had on MGTOW Forums, as Jagrmeister has on GYOW. (I once offered to contribute to the operating costs, while I was a moderator, and I was curtly rebuffed by Jagr. He owns the place.) They set it up that way so that, if any one of the administrators quit for whatever reason, the show would go on -- and they were DAMNED if they'd let it get shut down like MGTOW Forums, by one owner's fit of pique.

And every one of those "former MGTOW Forum mods" harbors a long-standing grudge against Nacho Vidal, a grudge rooted in anger at the callous way he shit on all the members by replacing the forum with a screed he wrote in his hissy-fit, then killing it altogether.

I would say that MGTOW HQ will succumb to heat-death before the mods admit Nacho Viper.

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spocksdisciple » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:01 pm wrote


I didn't think many members of HQ would be receptive to Nacho's re-emergence into the MGTOW sphere. I read the thread he had going on over at GYOW and his arguement with GIT. GIT eventually gave him both barrels in the face over what the former forum members felt when Nacho dropped the bomb on the community.

GIT said it quite eloquently and that's the double barrelled blast in the face of Nacho, it was all about trust and community and Nacho blew all of that up in a fit of pique.

"You succeeded at making something that was greater than yourself, that changed lives. Hell, if you could only see what I've written about where I'd be if I hadn't found that site... Untreated for a service related injury because shit insurance, unpaid for medical leave because none of that if I didn't have this job which I wouldn't have if not for your board... And I am just ONE guy.

Imagine the scope of great things that have happened to a large group of men, who by and large were fans of you and what you'd done, up to that final point. So a few people use dumb phrases or don't all agree with everything you think... why destroy something huge for so little? I could see not wanting to be a part of it, totally understand being frustrated it wasn't going your way when you had all that responsibility for it, but to just take it down? Hell even that I could understand, but how about a, "Hey, this isn't going the way I wanted, and I'm shutting down. I know you won't like it, but it is mine, and mine with which to choose what I'll do." Not even apologetic, because multitude of contributor's content be damned, they posted it there knowing it was yours, and you wouldn't have owed them anything. In fact, they'd have still owed you. I would have too. But adios and fuck off?

I couldn't have given you money, but I would have at the time had I money to give. That's what we're bent out of shape about, not you banning me, or whatever individual slight others perceived. It was that you had this group of guys, who'd all been burned by trusting someone before, and you gave us a place to speak our minds and make friends. That made us think of you as a friend, like we owed you, and a damn bit. But then you too tried burning us when you could have handed it off; "Hey, this shit has gotten gay, I don't like it, if you can pay for it, it's yours."

Even after the fact, all many had to say was they hoped that whatever you were going through that prompted such ire for those who'd come to see you as a friend, you wound up out the other end okay.

I can't speak for everyone, but I think I can say the majority of us thought you were better than that. "



www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-in ... post112590

One thing about Nacho reopening his old forum, the old members should go and copy whatever stuff they wrote and didn't have a chance to rescue before his blowout tantrum.

As for the whole "I own this forum, therefore I have the final say in the community," that has always been bullshit from day one. We all saw this over at AVFM from day one with Paul Elam's first internet podcast and his treatment of people around him who dared to offer any suggestions or question him in any way.
This is the danger of forums being started and run by only one person, these people eventually get to the point of thinking their personal importance outweighs the importance of the community,

Sigh, it's unfortunate that some of Nacho's former fanbois over at GYOW sounded like cheerleaders welcoming back the conquering hero after 4 years in the wilderness.
Recluse's capture of the final message should be posted over there to break the illusion of who Nacho really is, not the image of the formerly successful forum admin he loves to present himself as.

Reading some of the responses from Nacho to GIT only tells me that time has not mellowed him in the least, once an asshole always an asshole.

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by spocksdisciple » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:34 am wrote

recluse wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:14 am
Yeah I read that and it's bullshit.
There's not a lot of new growth on any of these forums,the young kids are doing something else.

You kids prefer Youtube and Twitter to old style forums with their longer posting styles.
Also they don't really like the whole idea of writing formal introductions as to them a few tweets or comments in the YT videos section is enough for them.

I'm finding the younger generation are not really highly original thinkers on an individual basis, a few are and that's the reason why they tend to be successful on Youtube. The younger generation also don't like to write in a more formal fashion, it's too much like school work and anyone who lurks on Reddit can readily pick out the kids and younger adults by their shortened, sloppy writing style.
Plus which the younger generation don't know how to spell LOSE, and not LOOSE, a dead giveaway lmao

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WakingUp » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:20 pm wrote
Apparently Nacho has not only resurrected his old forum, but added a new subforum to post his latest rantings:

mgtowforums.com/forums/nachos-open-bunker/