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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:08:26 GMT -5
Lee wrote:
"Reading the subject lines from today it's clear many guys here are responding to the USA as though they are experiencing culture shock:
1) Honeymoon phase 2) Negotiation phase 3) Adjustment phase 4) Re-integration phase
First everything is great Second everyone is an idiot Third you derisively mock your host culture <<--- this Fourth you begin to adjust Fifth you fit in
10% of travelers are Adopters. They become like their new surroundings and drop their prior identity.
30% are Cosmopolitans and mesh the old and the new and can function in the new country. Relocation to another country is also easy.
60% are Rejecters. They get drunk, criticize the new country constantly, hang out only with others of their home nation.
You guys are almost all Rejecters. This is really unhealthy. You hang out with like-minded guys, complain constantly about the host culture (in this case the USA or West and its women), but you don't leave or go someplace to change your surroundings.
Overseas the guys who do this and stay in their ghetto of like minded people from their home nation, these guys last 6 months at most. They cannot adjust, they don't explore the music, language, food or culture of their new culture. Returning home they have just as many, or more, problems in the USA as they did overseas.
Whilst I am aware that once one finds a hammer everything looks as a nail, the tenor of the posts here strongly suggests that most of you guys, psychologically at least, need to move to another nation so that you may then move on beyond the Rejector/Negotiation phase of Culture Shock.
You don't like it where you are, you don't fit in - so leave and go somewhere else. Your life is too valuable and too precious to spend the next 10 years complaining about AW as you have spent the past 10 years doing so."
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:13:00 GMT -5
pcr wrote:
"You're right Lee. Most of the ppl here are.
But there are also a lot of us here to learn "survival" techniques, share info, new technologies, self improvement and a lot of fun too !
I personally don't really care for all the crash and burn stories, became indifferent to them.
It's good for the lurkers though, give them a real SHOCK. I read a lot of these post in my pre MGTOW days. True lifesavers.
PCR"
[..] "88eight, I'll go to Brazil, Argentina or Thailand.
Germany sucks. Russia is dying and too damn cold for me ;D
To each his own. Give me the warm sun anytime!
PCR"
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:14:33 GMT -5
creepygoth wrote:
"MGTOW is for me about defining myself, free from corrupting externalities. A lifetime project in being a man, not a cog in the machine or milky breast feeding others the fruits of my intellectual or physical labors. Wherever on the planet I go, there I am - Location a choice, based on my needs or even whims; not running away or seeking greener grass, that is illusion. I must respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree with you lee, it smells too much like a NAWALT claim.
We poke fun or gasp in horror at various things, but they are not central to our individual missions. Rather like a crafty wank, it merely releases pressure, and we then go back to our personal interests."
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:15:10 GMT -5
womanhater wrote:
"Agreed Ulich!
If we take ghosting to mean trying to stay off the fucking grid and off of anyone's radar, then it is impossible to ghost outside of your host culture. For fuck sake, I'm 6'1", blonde, blue eyed, and 215 lbs - how the hell do I ghost in Asia? I'd stand out most anywhere in the world other than North America, Argentina, Chile, or Europe.
The term ghost comes from the essay titled The Ghost Nation - which had the avoidance of women as a secondary theme. The main one of course being that men have no place in the system, and they willingly absent themselves from the system. In order to do this and not to be endlessly fucked with, you must not draw attention to yourself.
Thus, one should ghost within your own nation and culture or one as close to it as possible. My $.02 anyway..."
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:16:32 GMT -5
whytry wrote:
"Yeah Lee, I agree with you. I've found out that women outside of the USA are made of candy and sweet cotton. They never cheat on a man. They never age. They never fuck around when they are young. They also never have abortions and there are so many attractive virgins out there, seriously.
The women also give a chance to the average guy and won't run away with the bigger, better deal when it appears.,
Lee has already stated that the women in Asia are decent and kind and whatever because they'd starve if they weren't obedient. Don't know about you guys, but the idea of having a woman stay with me because she needs me to survive, doesn't make me feel any better than I would feel had I involved myself with a woman from the states/Europe."
..] "Women have been whores and sluts way before the others Countries turned Americanized. Why do you think sailor were always afraid of leaving their homes? Why would the Ancient European Knights lock their wives pussy before going to war?
Why wa the Church of Peter against a man marrying?"
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:21:47 GMT -5
jgalt wrote:
"For me not being able to own a gun is a deal breaker. An unarmed man is nothing more than a slave or a prisoner waiting to happen. I'll take my chances here with the devil I know.
These people (feminists, lawyers, wall street types, government goons) may be jackasses but these are my people and this is my country. They're the ones who suck so why should I leave?
Maybe they're the ones who should leave, maybe they should run while still they have the chance.
I don't care what anyone says: America as conceived by the framers was the greatest nation on the planet. I think we have to be worthy of it, the reason it's as screwed up as it is is we haven't. People here let the fascists run wild as long as they had a McMansion and an SUV in the driveway. I think when all those things disappear completely things could get interesting.
America is the only nation that has any shot of not being subjugated completely by feministas and NWO pondscum. Why? The 2A and the states asserting sovereignty, pure and simple.
Who wants a "better life" anyway? That sounds like something women should be preoccupied with. Those asian women are just whores with better manners. The asian girl you meet could be in the whore business and you would not even know from the way they act.
You are going to leave your country, move overseas, learn a new language and culture so you can get a woman who doesn't have any better options? Not much different than paying for it if you ask me. Remember their local men probably think the same thing of us as we think of the alpha or rich guys in the clubs here.
How would you like to be there during an uprising against rising food prices with Americans being scapegoated by a bunch of desperate local guys who feel like you took their women, unarmed no less? Not I."
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:22:33 GMT -5
jgalt wrote:
Yesterday at 11:23pm, aussiesteve wrote: "Sorry jgalt, but you already are subjugated completely by feministas and NWO pondscum. When ruliers let one group get away with murdering the other group the second group are totally subjugated.
No need to apologize, but you're wrong. With a name like "aussiesteve" I don't expect you to understand this.
America has some unique properties that give it a chance. It's the fact that we have never been United States, maybe it's our sheer size and the differences in worlviews. There is a strong anti-authoritarian streak, maybe not in the cities but in the rural areas. The civil war was never resolved and the resentment continues to this day. A lot of people are waking up to what has happened and states are asserting their rights.
Once the economy collapses they run out of carrots and have to use the stick - that won't end well for them.
Arizona is considering a bill right now that will allow them to review federal laws for constitutionality. Several governors have been rumored to be raising state militias, we're in a low level civil war right now already."
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Post by madmax on Feb 11, 2011 9:29:19 GMT -5
lance001:
"Don't underestimate a woman. I know as men we feel strong, but in truth, the human body is very fragile, all it takes is a deep cut in the wrong area, or a hit to the head in the wrong area and you're done.
I was reading something once written for the police in training about women who killed men and the one thing most of the women said during integrations was that the men were all laughing before they died.
In other words, the men started laughing when the women pulled out a weapon as if she could do no harm."
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